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• Britain's National Debt [8 Updates]
• While Cameron gives your money away this is life for millions of UK workers. [2 Updates]
• Jane's New Board [8 Updates]
• One Rap for No, 2 Raps for yes. Is Anyone There ? [2 Updates]

 Britain's National Debt

jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> May 24 09:13AM -0700  

AFFA please point towards where I laid the blame for the state of the UK in '79 . I simply stated the the country was in a dreadful financial state.
I'm glad to see you acknowledge that five years isn't enough to turn the country around. Perhaps you would tell some on Janes board that opinion you hold.


 

jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> May 24 09:25AM -0700  

Regrettably you stubbornly stick to you ingrained beliefs . You know perfectly well that the whole world went into recession as like now we are part of that world.
Again I have to repeat that what ever happened in the eighties or ninety s Brown had thirteen years to correct. He had a stab at it and made matters worse.
 
So you don't reckon Janet Daly is up to it ? Well AFFA you don't mind who you condemn do you. Just as well you are not a Mathematician or you'd be telling us that Einstein has a lot to learn if he didn't agree with you,
 
Finally you agreed with me a long time ago now that the financial flags were all flying in the right direction in '97 Brown thought so because he kept to Clarkes policies before he had a brain hemorrhage .


 

Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> May 24 10:43AM -0700  

On Friday, 24 May 2013 17:13:52 UTC+1, jaria wrote:
 
AFFA please point towards where I laid the blame for the state of the UK in
> '79 .
 
 
May 21 ...... this thread, you wrote "*Briar it took ten years for the last
Tory gvt to repair Labours mismanagement of our economy"*
*
*
*
*
 
 
> I'm glad to see you acknowledge that five years isn't enough to turn the
> country around. Perhaps you would tell some on Janes board that opinion you
> hold.
 
 
Five years, three years is time enough to make progress, to repair any
damage and have the corrections in place. Brown wisely knew that in 1997 he
could not embark on putting the NHS or any other service back on track
until he paid off the huge debt he inherited, and got a million off the
dole and back to work.
His priority was to get spending below 40% of GDP and keep it there. After
FIVE years the UK had passed France as the fourth richest, and had the
economy
growing - and that period saw the collapse of the dot.com market that had
inflated the FTSE etc. We had the ENRON debacle, the world went through a
recession, the UK did not.
A lot, a great deal can be done in five years if the Chancellor has the
talent to show how. .......... Osborne is a bafoon, and most know it.


 

jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> May 24 12:14PM -0700  

AFFA weve had this conversation so many times you know full well my opinion
and you really dont have to restate yours. If Brown was thought of as such
a success why did he lose so many seats at the last election. He prooved
himself yo be incapable as most Scottish history teachers would as
Chancellor however word is that he merely followed Balls policies and this
is the guy you are recommending to have a re run.
Huge debt lol . He didnt pay it off he followed the trend set by Clarke
which I refer to my flags in the right direction any debt he inherited was
already decreasing quite different to the much larger one that Osborne
inherited which of course was increasing.
Im sorry Im not interested in going further into the rest of your post as
your interpretation has to be ruined by tribal loyalties which prevent you
from seeing or recalling the real situation. I rather debate with someone
who forms their opinion unclouded by party loyalty
 
On Friday, May 24, 2013 6:43:13 PM UTC+1, Affa wrote:


 

Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> May 24 01:01PM -0700  

On Friday, 24 May 2013 20:14:37 UTC+1, jaria wrote:
 
. If Brown was thought of as such a success why did he lose so many seats
at the last election.
 
I'm very used to EW diverting the thread and misrepresenting what was said
in posts. I'm even more familiar with TB making up things.
And now you too are adopting these same tactics.
In my post I was commenting on how Gordon Brown influenced the UK economy
(to the betterment) in his first term as CHANCELLOR, and you choose to
construe that he was a failure as PRIME MINISTER ten years later as if it
negates all that went before .......... it doesn't.
The topic was about how influential ANY government can be 'in the short
term' ......... I post to argue that they CAN be very influential. Over to
you.
 
*n.b. there is a lot at stake in this, a lot to be said, a discussion of
its own that could go some way towards understanding WHY what is/was done
is/was done.*
 
 
 
 
.


 

jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> May 24 01:55PM -0700  

It won't be me that's diverting the question AFFA . Brown stuck to Clark's policy for a start. When he or Balls decided to do their own thing the troubles began.how can you possibly give Brown the credit for following Clarkes policies. Well I suppose in your world anything is fair game.


 

jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> May 24 02:01PM -0700  

Brown or Balls as you know we're given a free hand by Blair, too much of a free hand which led Brown to force his retirement. I shouldn't have to be explaining all this as its public knowledge. I can only put your intransigence down to the usual refusal to accept reality.
As I suspected we are going over old ground and it no use you complaining about EW or TBs posts because they have found your Achilles heel and you have to complain about them and now me as a diversionary tactic.


 

Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> May 24 03:28PM -0700  

On Friday, 24 May 2013 22:01:52 UTC+1, jaria wrote:
 
As I suspected we are going over old ground and it no use you complaining
> about EW or TBs posts because they have found your Achilles heel and you
> have to complain about them and now me as a diversionary tactic.
 
 
This very night, in the last few hours EW has posted that prostitutes (in
Canne for the festival) are making a fortune, and uses
this to imply that the government's austerity measures have not had an
effect on the sex trade here.
 
And TB earlier on the same thread said "working class women have little
else to offer - it's their only option to earn a living".
That his typical untruthful generalisation.
Do not attempt to try and tell me or anybody else that I have an Achiles
heal, a Nemisis, or any challenging weakness that
these two, or you, can expose or take advantage of .......... it makes you
look stupid.


 

 While Cameron gives your money away this is life for millions of UK workers.

jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> May 24 09:34AM -0700  

Of course they don't have the money AFFA despite your constant repetitions which have to be to convince yourself because no one could believe that the previous gvt of thirteen years could not have been responsible. Which ever party that one the election had planned a period of austerity. Labour would have been equally affected by the financial state of the world. Hopefully they wouldn't have to rely on a nuisance party to form a gvt. And yes we would have had Ed Balls and the Unions deciding our future.
I'm sure that you think you are correct but for the good of the country I hope you are shown to be wrong


 

jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> May 24 09:38AM -0700  

Well AFFA you've been telling us of the golden times which were nothing more than a planned bubble and you know full well that Labour were planning a period of austerity which according to Darling would make Mrs Thatchers look mind,


 

 Jane's New Board

jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> May 24 01:47AM -0700  

lol big cunt if you dont mind AWM. I seem to have got through to you or
were you referring to Jonsky.
I only post the same in reply to the very words you describe me as. We know
what we think of each other so why bore every one else telling them
 
On Friday, May 24, 2013 1:19:36 AM UTC+1, AWM wrote:


 

AWM <Anotherwhitemug@aol.com> May 24 02:49AM -0700  

Hey jar, gotcha !!
 
And don't flatter yourself fella.
 


 

Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> May 24 03:40AM -0700  

On Friday, 24 May 2013 09:47:35 UTC+1, jaria wrote:
 
lol big cunt if you dont mind AWM. I seem to have got through to you or
> were you referring to Jonsky.
 
 
It seems very strange that as someone who wanted to escape
this unregulated board, you
still return here and participate?


 

Sandman <joerevo2@aol.com> May 24 04:43AM -0700  

No harm in trying it Tiger, telling another poster to fcuk off is not
the same as using insulting names, inventive names can be funny.


 
On Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:24:28 UTC+1, Tiger wrote:
 


 

Jane <rcfairy@aol.com> May 24 04:51AM -0700  

The most angry upset email I've ever had, as FairynuffOK, was from someone
whose post I called 'silly'. 'Poppet' seems to be a red rag to a bull too
<g> altho a poster once 'reported' me to AOL for calling him a worm lol
 
On Friday, May 24, 2013 12:43:08 PM UTC+1, Sandman wrote:


 

jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> May 24 06:40AM -0700  

You are a one off AFFA when I agree with you you tell the board I am a good
poster when I disagree you tell me to bugger off and find a new board
when AWM suggests I come here as he has something to say to me that
obviously wouldnt see the light of day under Janes board, I hope.
When I accept his invitation I see he reverts back to type, much better I
might add than his holier than thou act on Janes board. You find it
strange, Im flattered that you are taking such a close interest in what Im
doing
 
On Friday, May 24, 2013 11:40:52 AM UTC+1, Affa wrote:
 
> It seems very strange that as someone who wanted to escape
> this unregulated board, you
> still return here and participate?
 
On Friday, May 24, 2013 11:40:52 AM UTC+1, Affa wrote:


 

AWM <Anotherwhitemug@aol.com> May 24 08:28AM -0700  

I think Affa is being ironic jar, maybe not.
 
The day you become a good poster will be a joy to behold, you daft
prick.
 


 

jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> May 24 09:08AM -0700  

Not my fault if you are too wrapped up with yourself to recognize a good post AWM.


 

 One Rap for No, 2 Raps for yes. Is Anyone There ?

Sandman <joerevo2@aol.com> May 24 04:48AM -0700  

I am here and watching you Briar, although you are fading in the mist,
go to the other board and take an active part.

 
On Wednesday, 15 May 2013 08:50:05 UTC+1, Briar wrote:
 


 

Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> May 24 05:46AM -0700  

Test new androids


 

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