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    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> May 31 02:28PM -0700  

    Like I stated you haven't got a fucking clue...No wonder you are some dried
    up on spinster..
    On Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:40:19 UTC+1, ewill wrote:

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> May 31 03:33PM -0700  

    > Like I stated you haven't got a fucking clue...No wonder you are some dried
    > up on spinster..
     
    She doesn't clean kharsys or depend on state handouts like you.

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> May 31 03:38PM -0700  

    I thought she was some kind of fucking lawyer locky..Who in their right
    mind would hire a lawyer who thinks you are guilty without proof? And I
    have told you before locky why would I want to deprive you of your
    employment?
     
    On Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:33:26 UTC+1, Trueblue wrote:

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> May 31 03:44PM -0700  

    > I thought she was some kind of fucking lawyer locky
     
    Whereas you are just a parasite with an IQ of the average BNP supporter

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> May 31 03:47PM -0700  

    Ah bless locky is spitting out his dummy because yet again he is mugged
    off..
     
    On Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:44:26 UTC+1, Trueblue wrote:

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> May 31 03:48PM -0700  

    > Ah bless locky is spitting out his dummy because yet again he is mugged
    > off..
     
    Is that your best.?

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> May 31 03:51PM -0700  

    Why waste good ones on a complete tory tosser?
     
    On Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:48:57 UTC+1, Trueblue wrote:

     

    ewill <willelaine@gmail.com> May 31 03:53PM -0700  

    Could you kindly explain how breeding children isn't a personal
    choice ?
     
    I'd be most obliged if you can because I know from experience that it
    is , I doubt I know anyone who doesn't think it's a choice . Some
    choose to do it , others don't
     
    Provided people can afford the consequences of their choices it's fine
     
    It's when they expect other to fund their consequences that they need
    to be held fully to account
     
    All choices have consequences
     

     

    ewill <willelaine@gmail.com> May 31 03:54PM -0700  

    guilty of what?
     

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> May 31 04:11PM -0700  

    > Could you kindly explain how breeding children isn't a personal
    > choice ?
     
     
    Your not expecting Plonksy to answer a question that sends his brain
    cell into overdrive

     

    ewill <willelaine@gmail.com> May 31 04:34PM -0700  

    No, the principles of free choice ,use of contraception , morning
    after pills , abortion etc are probably beyond them , he and the
    usual grouping will simply continue with their very silly, uninformed
    vitriolic responses.
     

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> May 31 03:15PM -0700  

    The figures for April and May are expected to far higher, the
    socialist dream of a superstate is melting away.

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> May 31 03:31PM -0700  

    *YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
    *
     
    On Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:15:47 UTC+1, Trueblue wrote:

     

    Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> May 31 01:46PM -0700  

    This was the response then opposition party leader Michael Howard made on
    the release of the Sir Alan Budd enquiry into the
    alleged breaking the ministerial code by David Blunkett.
    Mr Howard said the controversy again showed the prime minister's government
    was a "stranger to the truth".
    At a news conference at Conservative Campaign Headquarters in central
    London, Mr Howard repeated his call for a judge-led inquiry into the
    controversy.
     
    He (Mr Blair) leads a grubby government, that gives favour for finance," he
    said."A grubby government that is a stranger to the truth, a grubby
    government that intimidates people who don't agree with it."In short, a
    grubby government low on integrity, light on honesty and lacking in all
    humility."
    Sir Alan had given an open verdict ..... there was no evidence that
    Blunkett had 'fast tracked' the visa application of his girlfriends nanny,
    but there was a chain of events linking him to it.
     
    The report made this conclusion ..........
    What was clear was that at some point after Mrs Quinn had raised the case
    with Mr Blunkett an official in Mr Blunkett's office had contacted the
    office of the director general of the immigration directorate about the case
     
    As a result, the case was re-considered and leave to remain in the UK was
    granted on 12 May
     
    Mr Blunkett's private secretary e-mailed the private secretary of the
    director general of the IND on the 8 May asked for an "update on the
    settlement (domestic worker) case I faxed through to you the other day?"
     
    On 9 May the director general's private secretary e-mailed back saying:
    "Sorted - she has been granted ILR - papers will be sent to her shortly.
    The case was in ICU so they pulled it out of the queue and made a decision
    - ( no special favours, only what they would normally do - but a bit
    quicker."
     
    Sir Alan said he had not been able to discover whether Mr Blunkett had
    given any instructions over the application and if so, what they had been
     
    He had been "unable to link Mr Blunkett to the sending of faxes to the IND
     
    A remarkable similarity where a 'private secretary/advisor' to the minster
    exchanged e-mails (two in the Blunkett affair) and supposedly acting on
    instructions from the minister. Not so in his case says Jeremy Hunt, Adam
    Smith acted without my instruction.
     
    David Blunkett resigned, because the affair had damaged the government and
    had created difficulties for it. Jeremy Hunt has not.
     
    Now back to how Michael Howard described it .............. I would dearly
    like to interview him today and hear what has to say about this
    government's integrity.

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> May 31 01:58PM -0700  

    Its hillarious whatching Labour whinge Hunt had a friendly
    relationship with James Murdoch, Tessa Jowel for example attended
    several Murdock parties

     

    Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> May 31 02:11PM -0700  

    On Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:58:29 PM UTC+1, Trueblue wrote:
     
    > Its hillarious whatching Labour whinge
     
     
    I told you long ago that what you, what the Tories, said whilst in
    opposition would be returned to you ....
    Yes; I fully understand that having no integrity at all will aid you to
    dismiss these reminders, but remind I will.

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> May 31 02:19PM -0700  


    > > Its hillarious whatching Labour whinge
     
    >  I told you long ago that what you, what the Tories, said whilst in
    > opposition would be returned to you ....
     
    What has Hunt done wrong Affa, Labour eased the rules to allow Murdock
    to take over Bskyb but delayed making a decission when the phone
    hacking scandle they tried to stiffle blew up, you tell me what MP of
    any party who wouldn't have a view on the Murdochs one way or the
    other

     

    Briar <BriarLorenz@aol.com> May 31 10:55AM -0700  

    Oh Anthony, my respect to your brilliant Granddaughter. Mine is 18
    now and studying in Glasgow - she is into Photography, which gives her
    all manner of possible futures, from photojournalism to doing weddings
    and such, but she has a special interest for volcanoes - I intend to
    finance her a trip to Iceland one summer - I love it there and have
    been several times, I am sure she will find it exciting. How young is
    your's ?
     

     

    jar <jar1a2@aol.com> May 31 10:59AM -0700  

    lol seemingly far too young to have an opinion on the subjedt.

     
    On Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:55:21 PM UTC+1, Briar wrote:
     

     

    Briar <BriarLorenz@aol.com> May 31 10:47AM -0700  

    All very amusing and I love you guys making fun of them, but here is
    something even funnier - the truth is, lil ole Mayhem-mad, the
    illiterate camel driver, was from Syria, and back in those days, the
    people there spoke a language called Syriac, related to but different
    from modern Arabic. So when he was dictating his tales the person
    writing down his story about what people who died spreading the word
    of the new religion he was inventing could look forward to in the
    Afterlife, what he actually was talking about were 12 little sundried
    white grapes, otherwise known as raisons - the arabic-speaking
    inhabitant of Mecca he was telling it all to got the similar word in
    Arabic for a young unattached girl down by mistake. A lot of suicide
    bombers would be horribly disappointed if there was an afterlife, but
    of course that is just a figment of their founder's imagination, like
    so much else in his book, the best use of which I have yet heard is
    for toilet paper if caught short in the desert.
     
    The Talmud and Torah and the Bible of the christinsane are equally
    riddled with mistranslations and nonsense, so followers of the related
    religions that use these need not feel so smug and superior. Their
    books too are about as useful if caught short in the desert BTW.
     
    Who is left to sort out then? Sikhs? Buddists ? Confused
    Confucians ? Believers in the god Mammon ?
     
    Put not thy trust in ancient prophets, but trust in the scientific
    proofs derived from experiments and the calculations of mathematics,
    for they alone tell us the Truth.
     

     

    Anthonychng <ataylor845@googlemail.com> May 31 08:03AM -0700  

    Does that include the Scottish referendum Briar? Will that one be
    decided in the streets?
     

     

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Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fela: International Thief Thief

I agree that there is a thin line between Abiola securing a (one that we hear of) government contract as most businessmen aspire to on terms beneficial to them and the mindless treasury looting that has characterized the Nigerian society. Thin and blurry as that line may be sometimes, it is still an important line of distinction that we ought to maintain if we are to be fair in our assessment of extraordinarily imaginative and hardworking individuals who happen to be in the hard world of business. Businessmen, seeking advantage are not in essence demons and are a different breed from the wholesale looters that you lump them with. Some of them are grounded in sound philosophy and values than most of their critics, people who knew Abiola personally overwhelmingly tell us he is one of a kind, the 23rd and only child of his mother.... full of compassion.... I would caution that we do not regurgitate myths about people we don't know. I would make that distinction but you are not willing to make such. Let us leave it there.

Thanks,

Bode 


On 5/31/12 7:48 PM, Anunoby, Ogugua wrote:

"we cannot be stuck in the past with a limited and unevolved view of heroism."

 

Bode

 

 

It bears reminding that the past matters which is why history matters.

It bears reminding also that the end does not and should not justify the means. There is right and wrong.  The intention to be contrite or to do good in future is no reason to commit criminal acts in the present.

Colonialism and imperialism create wealth for colonialists and imperialists who turn around and become "do-gooders". Doing "good" after, does not justify mindless exploitation of the resources and people of the victim-countries of colonialism and imperialism just as the crimes of robber-barons are not less crimes because of the "good' that the robber-barons do after.

Privileged Nigerians have looted and continue to loot the country's treasury. They have visited the country and fellow citizens with unconscionable misrule. Is it the case that the suffering and misery that their actions breed are ameliorated by the egoistical “benevolence” and "philanthropy" that they may practice later? Is a robber-baron capable of altruistic acts?

 

oa

 

From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olabode Ibironke [ibironke@msu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:17 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fela: International Thief Thief

we cannot be stuck in the past with a limited and unevolved view of heroism. heroism does not mean sainthood. it means action performed at a level beyond what we normally expect in everyday life or the capacity of most people that we know. in every capitalist system, there is always deal-making between the money class and the ruling class. this was why Marx called government the committee of the money class but the same Marx also talked about class suicide in which a member of the money class renounces the privileges of his class and joins with the people. this is the humanist form of the story of redemption. for you, it seems, even when a rich man has gone through the eye of the needle and lost his life in the process in the course of the people he can never do enough to redeem himself. whatever deals Abiola had with one of the most radical governments in the history of the country, Murtala's Government, he was playing by the rules of the capitalist ethos, something that will be familiar to anyone with the least knowledge of the history of capitalist societies. Go and read about Rockefeller, Carnegie,  who built American public libraries, and are revered  figures in American capitalism and you will see the value of celebrating human redemption through public service after what seems shady, and appreciate better the Abiola story. and there is such a thing as redemption in this world. if one gives ones life, that should be enough repayment for whatever sins one may have committed against society. But for some, there can never be redeemption for the rich, heroes cannot emerge from out of this class!

Bode

On 5/31/12 2:10 PM, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:
"Then start start to steal money
Start start them corruption
Start start them inflation
Start start them oppression
Start start them confusion
Start start them oppression
Start start to steal money
Start start to steal money

Like Obasanjo and Abiola

[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!"
------Fela.

And suddenly, they become Icons, symbols and heroes of democracy, etc.
-----CAO.
 


From: Funmi Tofowomo Okelola <cafeafricana1@aol.com>
To: Funmi Tofowomo Okelola <cafeafricana1@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:07 PM
Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fela: International Thief Thief

Youtube: 

Nigerians....

Fela: ITT (International Thief Thief) Lyrics
[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!

I.T.T.
International thief
I.T.T.
International rogue

Well, well...
Ha!
Well, well...
Ha!

Motherfuckers, bastard motherfuckers
We yab dem, yeah
Hurry up there
Say "yeah"

[Chorus]
Well well!

Well well, na true I want talk again o
Na true I want talk again o
If I dey lie o
Make Osiris punish me
Make Ifa dey punish me o
Make Edumare punish me o
Make the land dey punish me o
Make Edumare punish me o

I read dem for book ee-o
I see so myself ee-o
Well-ee well-ee o
Well well... well well!

[Chorus]
Well well... well well!

Long time ago
Long, long time ago

[Chorus]
Long time ago!

Long, long, long, long time ago
African man we no dey carry shit
We dey shit inside big big hole
For Yoruba-land na "Shalanga"
For Igbo-land na "Onunu-insi"
For Hausa-land na "Salga"
For Gaa-land na "Tiafi"
For Ashanti-land na "Yarni"
For Ethiopia-land na "Sagara-be"
For Kagyu-land na "Cho-Cho"
For Bemba-land na "Chimbuzi"
For Tunga-land na "Echibuzi"
Long, long, long, long time ago
African man we no dey carry shit
We dey shit inside big big hole

[Chorus]
Long time ago!

Long, long, long, long time ago
Long, long, long, long time ago

Before them come force us away as slaves
During the time them come force us away as slaves
Na European man, na him dey carry shit
Na for them culture to carry shit
During the time them come colonize us
Them come teach us to carry shit
Long, long, long, long time ago
African man we no dey carry shit
Na European man teach us to carry shit

[Chorus]
Say am, say am!

Many foreign companies dey Africa carry all our money go
Many foreign companies dey Africa carry all our money go
Them go write big English for newspaper, dabaru we Africans
Them go write big English for newspaper, dabaru we Africans

I read about one of them inside book like that
Them call him name na I.T.T.
I read about one of them inside book like that
Them call him name na I.T.T.

Them go dey cause confusion (Confusion!)
Cause corruption (Corruption!)
Cause oppression (Oppression!)
Cause inflation (Inflation!)

Oppression, oppression, inflation
Corruption, oppression, inflation

Them get one style wey them dey use
Them go pick one African man
A man with low mentality
Them go give am million naira breads
To become of high position here
Him go bribe some thousand naira bread
To become one useless chief

Like rat they do them go do from
Corner corner, pass-ee pass-ee
Under under, pass-ee pass-ee
Inside inside, pass-ee pass-ee
In in, pass-ee pass-ee
Out out, pass-ee pass-ee
Peep peep, pass-ee pass-ee
Up up, pass-ee pass-ee...

Then he gradually, gradually, gradually, gradually...
Then he gradually, gradually, gradually, gradually...

Them go be:
Friend friend to journalist
Friend friend to Commissioner
Friend friend to Permanent Secretary
Friend friend to Minister
Friend friend to Head of State

Then start start to steal money
Start start them corruption
Start start them inflation
Start start them oppression
Start start them confusion
Start start them oppression
Start start to steal money
Start start to steal money

Like Obasanjo and Abiola

[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!

I.T.T.
International rogue
International thief
We go fight them, well well

[Chorus]
Well well!

Well, well...

We don tire to carry anymore of them shit
We don tire to carry anymore of them shit
We don tire to carry anymore of them shit

Well, well...

[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!


(((((H))))
Funmilayo   

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RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fela: International Thief Thief

"we cannot be stuck in the past with a limited and unevolved view of heroism."

 

Bode

 

 

It bears reminding that the past matters which is why history matters.

It bears reminding also that the end does not and should not justify the means. There is right and wrong.  The intention to be contrite or to do good in future is no reason to commit criminal acts in the present.

Colonialism and imperialism create wealth for colonialists and imperialists who turn around and become "do-gooders". Doing "good" after, does not justify mindless exploitation of the resources and people of the victim-countries of colonialism and imperialism just as the crimes of robber-barons are not less crimes because of the "good' that the robber-barons do after.

Privileged Nigerians have looted and continue to loot the country's treasury. They have visited the country and fellow citizens with unconscionable misrule. Is it the case that the suffering and misery that their actions breed are ameliorated by the egoistical "benevolence" and "philanthropy" that they may practice later? Is a robber-baron capable of altruistic acts?

 

oa

 

From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olabode Ibironke [ibironke@msu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:17 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fela: International Thief Thief

we cannot be stuck in the past with a limited and unevolved view of heroism. heroism does not mean sainthood. it means action performed at a level beyond what we normally expect in everyday life or the capacity of most people that we know. in every capitalist system, there is always deal-making between the money class and the ruling class. this was why Marx called government the committee of the money class but the same Marx also talked about class suicide in which a member of the money class renounces the privileges of his class and joins with the people. this is the humanist form of the story of redemption. for you, it seems, even when a rich man has gone through the eye of the needle and lost his life in the process in the course of the people he can never do enough to redeem himself. whatever deals Abiola had with one of the most radical governments in the history of the country, Murtala's Government, he was playing by the rules of the capitalist ethos, something that will be familiar to anyone with the least knowledge of the history of capitalist societies. Go and read about Rockefeller, Carnegie,  who built American public libraries, and are revered  figures in American capitalism and you will see the value of celebrating human redemption through public service after what seems shady, and appreciate better the Abiola story. and there is such a thing as redemption in this world. if one gives ones life, that should be enough repayment for whatever sins one may have committed against society. But for some, there can never be redeemption for the rich, heroes cannot emerge from out of this class!

Bode

On 5/31/12 2:10 PM, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:
"Then start start to steal money
Start start them corruption
Start start them inflation
Start start them oppression
Start start them confusion
Start start them oppression
Start start to steal money
Start start to steal money

Like Obasanjo and Abiola

[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!"
------Fela.

And suddenly, they become Icons, symbols and heroes of democracy, etc.
-----CAO.
 


From: Funmi Tofowomo Okelola <cafeafricana1@aol.com>
To: Funmi Tofowomo Okelola <cafeafricana1@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:07 PM
Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fela: International Thief Thief

Youtube: 

Nigerians....

Fela: ITT (International Thief Thief) Lyrics
[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!

I.T.T.
International thief
I.T.T.
International rogue

Well, well...
Ha!
Well, well...
Ha!

Motherfuckers, bastard motherfuckers
We yab dem, yeah
Hurry up there
Say "yeah"

[Chorus]
Well well!

Well well, na true I want talk again o
Na true I want talk again o
If I dey lie o
Make Osiris punish me
Make Ifa dey punish me o
Make Edumare punish me o
Make the land dey punish me o
Make Edumare punish me o

I read dem for book ee-o
I see so myself ee-o
Well-ee well-ee o
Well well... well well!

[Chorus]
Well well... well well!

Long time ago
Long, long time ago

[Chorus]
Long time ago!

Long, long, long, long time ago
African man we no dey carry shit
We dey shit inside big big hole
For Yoruba-land na "Shalanga"
For Igbo-land na "Onunu-insi"
For Hausa-land na "Salga"
For Gaa-land na "Tiafi"
For Ashanti-land na "Yarni"
For Ethiopia-land na "Sagara-be"
For Kagyu-land na "Cho-Cho"
For Bemba-land na "Chimbuzi"
For Tunga-land na "Echibuzi"
Long, long, long, long time ago
African man we no dey carry shit
We dey shit inside big big hole

[Chorus]
Long time ago!

Long, long, long, long time ago
Long, long, long, long time ago

Before them come force us away as slaves
During the time them come force us away as slaves
Na European man, na him dey carry shit
Na for them culture to carry shit
During the time them come colonize us
Them come teach us to carry shit
Long, long, long, long time ago
African man we no dey carry shit
Na European man teach us to carry shit

[Chorus]
Say am, say am!

Many foreign companies dey Africa carry all our money go
Many foreign companies dey Africa carry all our money go
Them go write big English for newspaper, dabaru we Africans
Them go write big English for newspaper, dabaru we Africans

I read about one of them inside book like that
Them call him name na I.T.T.
I read about one of them inside book like that
Them call him name na I.T.T.

Them go dey cause confusion (Confusion!)
Cause corruption (Corruption!)
Cause oppression (Oppression!)
Cause inflation (Inflation!)

Oppression, oppression, inflation
Corruption, oppression, inflation

Them get one style wey them dey use
Them go pick one African man
A man with low mentality
Them go give am million naira breads
To become of high position here
Him go bribe some thousand naira bread
To become one useless chief

Like rat they do them go do from
Corner corner, pass-ee pass-ee
Under under, pass-ee pass-ee
Inside inside, pass-ee pass-ee
In in, pass-ee pass-ee
Out out, pass-ee pass-ee
Peep peep, pass-ee pass-ee
Up up, pass-ee pass-ee...

Then he gradually, gradually, gradually, gradually...
Then he gradually, gradually, gradually, gradually...

Them go be:
Friend friend to journalist
Friend friend to Commissioner
Friend friend to Permanent Secretary
Friend friend to Minister
Friend friend to Head of State

Then start start to steal money
Start start them corruption
Start start them inflation
Start start them oppression
Start start them confusion
Start start them oppression
Start start to steal money
Start start to steal money

Like Obasanjo and Abiola

[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!

I.T.T.
International rogue
International thief
We go fight them, well well

[Chorus]
Well well!

Well, well...

We don tire to carry anymore of them shit
We don tire to carry anymore of them shit
We don tire to carry anymore of them shit

Well, well...

[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!


(((((H))))
Funmilayo   

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RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fela: International Thief Thief

"we cannot be stuck in the past with a limited and unevolved view of heroism."
 
Bode
 

It bears reminding that the past matters which is why history matters.

It bears reminding also that the end does not and should not justify the means. There is right and wrong.  The intention to be contrite or to do good in future is no reason to commit criminal acts in the present.

Colonialism and imperialism create wealth for colonialists and imperialists who turn around and become "do-gooders". Doing "good" after, does not justify mindless exploitation of the resources and people of the victim-countries of colonialism and imperialism just as the crimes of robber-barons are not less crimes because of the "good' that the robber-barons do after.

Some privileged Nigerians have looted and continue to loot the country's treasury. They have visited the country and fellow citizens with unconscionable misrule. Is it the case that that suffering and misery that their actions breed are ameliorated by the egoistical "benevolence" and "philanthropy" that they may practice later? Is a robber-baron capable of altruistic acts?

 

oa


ialism create wealth for colonizers and From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olabode Ibironke [ibironke@msu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:17 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fela: International Thief Thief

we cannot be stuck in the past with a limited and unevolved view of heroism. heroism does not mean sainthood. it means action performed at a level beyond what we normally expect in everyday life or the capacity of most people that we know. in every capitalist system, there is always deal-making between the money class and the ruling class. this was why Marx called government the committee of the money class but the same Marx also talked about class suicide in which a member of the money class renounces the privileges of his class and joins with the people. this is the humanist form of the story of redemption. for you, it seems, even when a rich man has gone through the eye of the needle and lost his life in the process in the course of the people he can never do enough to redeem himself. whatever deals Abiola had with one of the most radical governments in the history of the country, Murtala's Government, he was playing by the rules of the capitalist ethos, something that will be familiar to anyone with the least knowledge of the history of capitalist societies. Go and read about Rockefeller, Carnegie,  who built American public libraries, and are revered  figures in American capitalism and you will see the value of celebrating human redemption through public service after what seems shady, and appreciate better the Abiola story. and there is such a thing as redemption in this world. if one gives ones life, that should be enough repayment for whatever sins one may have committed against society. But for some, there can never be redeemption for the rich, heroes cannot emerge from out of this class!

Bode

On 5/31/12 2:10 PM, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:
"Then start start to steal money
Start start them corruption
Start start them inflation
Start start them oppression
Start start them confusion
Start start them oppression
Start start to steal money
Start start to steal money

Like Obasanjo and Abiola

[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!"
------Fela.

And suddenly, they become Icons, symbols and heroes of democracy, etc.
-----CAO.
 


From: Funmi Tofowomo Okelola <cafeafricana1@aol.com>
To: Funmi Tofowomo Okelola <cafeafricana1@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:07 PM
Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fela: International Thief Thief

Youtube: 

Nigerians....

Fela: ITT (International Thief Thief) Lyrics
[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!

I.T.T.
International thief
I.T.T.
International rogue

Well, well...
Ha!
Well, well...
Ha!

Motherfuckers, bastard motherfuckers
We yab dem, yeah
Hurry up there
Say "yeah"

[Chorus]
Well well!

Well well, na true I want talk again o
Na true I want talk again o
If I dey lie o
Make Osiris punish me
Make Ifa dey punish me o
Make Edumare punish me o
Make the land dey punish me o
Make Edumare punish me o

I read dem for book ee-o
I see so myself ee-o
Well-ee well-ee o
Well well... well well!

[Chorus]
Well well... well well!

Long time ago
Long, long time ago

[Chorus]
Long time ago!

Long, long, long, long time ago
African man we no dey carry shit
We dey shit inside big big hole
For Yoruba-land na "Shalanga"
For Igbo-land na "Onunu-insi"
For Hausa-land na "Salga"
For Gaa-land na "Tiafi"
For Ashanti-land na "Yarni"
For Ethiopia-land na "Sagara-be"
For Kagyu-land na "Cho-Cho"
For Bemba-land na "Chimbuzi"
For Tunga-land na "Echibuzi"
Long, long, long, long time ago
African man we no dey carry shit
We dey shit inside big big hole

[Chorus]
Long time ago!

Long, long, long, long time ago
Long, long, long, long time ago

Before them come force us away as slaves
During the time them come force us away as slaves
Na European man, na him dey carry shit
Na for them culture to carry shit
During the time them come colonize us
Them come teach us to carry shit
Long, long, long, long time ago
African man we no dey carry shit
Na European man teach us to carry shit

[Chorus]
Say am, say am!

Many foreign companies dey Africa carry all our money go
Many foreign companies dey Africa carry all our money go
Them go write big English for newspaper, dabaru we Africans
Them go write big English for newspaper, dabaru we Africans

I read about one of them inside book like that
Them call him name na I.T.T.
I read about one of them inside book like that
Them call him name na I.T.T.

Them go dey cause confusion (Confusion!)
Cause corruption (Corruption!)
Cause oppression (Oppression!)
Cause inflation (Inflation!)

Oppression, oppression, inflation
Corruption, oppression, inflation

Them get one style wey them dey use
Them go pick one African man
A man with low mentality
Them go give am million naira breads
To become of high position here
Him go bribe some thousand naira bread
To become one useless chief

Like rat they do them go do from
Corner corner, pass-ee pass-ee
Under under, pass-ee pass-ee
Inside inside, pass-ee pass-ee
In in, pass-ee pass-ee
Out out, pass-ee pass-ee
Peep peep, pass-ee pass-ee
Up up, pass-ee pass-ee...

Then he gradually, gradually, gradually, gradually...
Then he gradually, gradually, gradually, gradually...

Them go be:
Friend friend to journalist
Friend friend to Commissioner
Friend friend to Permanent Secretary
Friend friend to Minister
Friend friend to Head of State

Then start start to steal money
Start start them corruption
Start start them inflation
Start start them oppression
Start start them confusion
Start start them oppression
Start start to steal money
Start start to steal money

Like Obasanjo and Abiola

[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!

I.T.T.
International rogue
International thief
We go fight them, well well

[Chorus]
Well well!

Well, well...

We don tire to carry anymore of them shit
We don tire to carry anymore of them shit
We don tire to carry anymore of them shit

Well, well...

[Chorus]
International Thief Thief!


(((((H))))
Funmilayo   

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USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series---Call for Papers: Journal of Retracing Africa (JORA)

Dear Colleagues,
 
We are currently accepting research papers, book reviews, and commentaries for the inaugural issue of the Journal of Retracing Africa (JORA). JORA is a peer-reviewed, interdisciplinary African studies journal published by Eastern Kentucky University (EKU) Libraries in collaboration with African/African American Studies program at EKU and the Berkeley Electronic Press. It considers unpublished manuscripts that provide theoretically informed analysis on Africa's social, economic, cultural, and political transformation since the pre-colonial period. JORA's mission is to deconstruct misconceived, mistaken, and missing narratives on Africa and Africans, thus providing a holistic understanding and appreciation of the African experience. For further information about the journal, please see the attached flyer and/or visit JORA homepage: http://encompass.eku.edu/jora/.  
 
To submit your manuscripts, click on "Submit Article" on JORA homepage: http://encompass.eku.edu/jora/; create a new account (which is fast and easy); and then upload your manuscripts. You can always login at any time to update your profile and check the status of your submissions. If you have any problems or questions, please contact the editorial assistant, Mayling Yap, at danielle_yap@mymail.eku.edu. For further inquiries, please do not hesitate to contact: Managing Editor, Dr. Salome Nnoromele, at salome.nnoromele@eku.edu (859) 622-8676 or Editor-in-Chief, Dr. Ogechi E. Anyanwu, at ogechi.anyanwu@eku.edu (859)248-1394.
 
Best Regards,
Dr. Ogechi E. Anyanwu
Editor-in-chief
 
  
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Ogechi E. Anyanwu, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of African History 
Eastern Kentucky University
310 Keith Building
Richmond, KY 40475
Tel: (859) 622-1375
Editor-in-chief, Journal of Retracing Africa, http://encompass.eku.edu/jora/
Author, The Politics of Access: http://uofcpress.com/books/9781552385180
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