Previous day's cooked rice soaked in plain water overnight is excellent food

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      Good After Noon / Good Evening / Good Morning. Our very old traditional customs and habits somebody has to remind us. All the best. Enjoy. Really very good with lots of side dishes like vadumangai, onion and green chilly, vaththal kuzhambu, kancha northangai etc. Santhanam( Nakkulay thanni uranumai)

Interesting facts about pazhaya saadham! !!!!!!

 Previous day's cooked rice soaked in plain water overnight is excellent food



I had sent this message already in "Tamil" to some friends. However for the benefit of other friends who do not know Tamil, the following message is made out and is being sent, of course, to all. It may be a repetition to those who already this message in Tamil earlier. Still, I hope all will take advantage of the write-up and derive benefits and enjoy uninterrupted good health forever.


 During the good old days, there was no special practice of preparing hot morning break-fast, as we do now, among most South Indian families, except that, previous day's cooked rice that was soaked in plain water the previous night was consumed the next day morning with some nutritious supplements such as fresh buttermilk, slightly-salted onions or other non-spicy pickles such as  goose berry or lemon. This is an excellent, rich and the most nutritious food. This is known as " Pazhaya Saadham" (meaning old rice) in Tamil and "Saddhi Annamu" or "Saddhennamu" (meaning cold rice) in Telugu.

An American Nutritionist, dietitian and scientist had researched on the food practices among  various regions in the world and concluded that the South Indian tradition of consuming the previous day's cooked rice soaked in plain water overnight, in the morning next day, as break-fast, is the best.

For centuries, this has been the staple food of many South Indian families, particularly of the low income groups. It is, of course, now replaced with fashionable hot break-fast.

It is found out that previous day's cooked rice soaked in plain water is very compact and complete break-fast. It has the rare B6 B12 vitamins which are not otherwise easily available in other food supplements. This rice generates and harbours trillions of beneficial bacteria that help digestion and has many disease fighting and immunity developing agents. The bacteria that grow in the intestines due to this rice safeguard the internal organs and keep all organs battle fit and ready. Consuming this rice helps quicker digestion and wards off ageing, bone related ailments and muscular pains.

It is worth giving a try. The cooked rice can be soaked in an earthen vessel or vessels made of natural clay or rock. (In Tamil families, vessels made of natural rock, called as "Kalchatti" was used. Many South Indian families also use this even now though it is called by different names in other languages. Some families use this "Kalchatti"  that is handed down to them since generations even. It is found to be free from harmful bacteria and other normal disease causing harmful elements.

Brown rice is the best for this as its nutrients are retained intact.

You will be happy to know that the American Nutritionist had listed the following benefits that accrue to the body if you stick to the practice of consuming such soaked rice. 


 1.  Consuming this rice as break-fast keeps the body light and
      also energetic.
 
2.   Beneficial bacteria gets produced in abundance for the
       body.

 3.  Stomach ailments disappear when this is consumed in the
      morning, as, excessive and harmful heat retained in the
      body is neutralized.

 4. As this food is very fibrous, it removes constipation and
     also dullness in the body.

 5. Blood pressure is normalised and hypertension subsides
     appreciably.

 6.  Body feels less tired due to this food as a result of which
      one feels fresh through out the day.

 7.  This removes allergy induced problems and also skin
       related ailments.

 8.  It removes all types of ulcers in the body.

 9.  Fresh infections are kept at bay due to consuming this rice.

 10. It helps in maintaining youthful and radiant look.

Once you consume this, the body does not crave for tea or coffee. In the olden days, people who worked in the fields used to leave their houses in the early morning after consuming this soaked rice and worked hard for over 8 to 10 hours non-stop.


 




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    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 04:15PM -0800  

    Lincoln MP apologises for offence over expenses claims
     
    Ipsa discloses that Conservative MP Karl McCartney sent 'inappropriate'
    messages to staff

    - <http://www.facebook.com/dialog/feed?app_id=180444840287&link=http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/feb/28/lincoln-mp-apologises-expenses-claims&display=popup&redirect_uri=http://static-serve.appspot.com/static/facebook-share/callback.html&show_error=false>
     
    [image: Karl McCartney]
    *McCartney claimed he was the victim of "bullying tactics." Photograph:
    Andy Weekes / Rex Features*
     
    A Tory MP has apologised after writing offensive notes to staff processing
    his expenses claims.
     
    The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa) disclosed that
    Karl McCartney had sent messages telling one official they were "talking
    shite", and condemning another as a "pedantic SOAB".
     
    The jibes emerged after McCartney claimed he was the victim of "bullying
    tactics" by the watchdog.
     
    During business questions in the house on Thursday, McCartney accused Ipsa
    chief executive Andrew McDonald of using "false innuendo and subterfuge" to
    smear the name of politicians.
     
    "Do you think that their chief executive should show some backbone and meet
    with me as he refused to do so for over two and a half years, instead of
    attempting to smear members of parliament's names by false innuendo and
    subterfuge?" the Lincoln MP asked the leader of the house, Andrew Lansley.
     
    However, responding in a letter afterwards, McDonald denied the bullying
    allegations and insisted Ipsa was providing good value to the taxpayer.
     
    He said: "Some of the notes written by you, and attached to your claims,
    were recently brought to my attention.
     
    "Having reviewed those notes, I was taken aback by the content, which
    ranged from the abusive ("you are a pedantic SOAB, aren't you?") to the
    offensive ("you're talking shite") and on to the condescending ("simples –
    or didn't you do geography at Eton and Oxford ... ").
     
    "We will do all that is reasonable to shield our team from such treatment.
    This policy and its application in your case have been expressly endorsed
    by the board.
     
    "I had hoped it would be possible to address this behaviour without writing
    to you formally. In the light of your comments today, I write to ask that
    you conduct your dealings with us, orally or in writing, in civil terms.
     
    "I do not ask you to like Ipsa or its policies. At the same time, Ipsa's
    team deserves to be treated in a courteous manner. I ask that, with
    immediate effect, you desist from correspondence which falls below this
    standard."
     
    In a statement later, McCartney admitted his messages had been
    "inappropriate". "I apologise unreservedly to Ipsa for my comments which
    were inappropriate, and which I regret having made," he said.
     
    "I accept that such comments have given cause for offence.
     
    "You will not see me making similar remarks in the future in respect of
    Ipsa, which has a difficult and important job to do."
     
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/feb/28/lincoln-mp-apologises-expenses-claims

     

    Trog <Troglodytes1@aol.com> Feb 28 03:49PM -0800  

    Here is an unusal Email I received or part of it saying that the
    third world war has started
     
    "Dear Reader,
     
    On September 6, 2012 Russia and China quietly signed a Declaration of
    War on America.
     
    As we speak, China is mobilizing resources and gathering allies around
    the globe for its imminent "attack."
     
    They have one sole purpose in mind ... to crush the economic,
    political and military strength of the U.S. around the globe by
    targeting America's greatest weakness.
     
    In this shocking new video you will see how this attack will crush the
    dollar ... destroy the retirement accounts of millions of
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    Unfortunately, you won't hear even a whisper about it in the
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    But this is the exact type of research that my team and I at Weiss
    Research specialize in ... and it's the type of prediction that
    recently led Worth magazine to declare "Weiss' record is so good
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    But my latest prediction is more shocking than anything we've ever
    published before.
     
    We could see the markets crash another 50-90% ... traditional safe-
    haven investments like CDs and bonds turn into financial death
    traps ... and the price of food, water and gas will skyrocket.
     
    Make of it what youj will.

     

    Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> Feb 28 03:55PM -0800  

    The correct word is 'Competition', not war .......... and it has been
    going on
    for centuries. Far longer than five months.

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 03:58PM -0800  

    The US could win the war by stopping mass investment in China and Russia
    and banning imports

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 04:01PM -0800  

    Or just by bombing the shit out of em..
     
    On Thursday, 28 February 2013 23:58:34 UTC, Trueblue wrote:

     

    GBur3 <GBur3@aol.com> Feb 28 04:09PM -0800  

    If there is to be a nuclear war, i'll go and live on a Scottish island. That way i'll avoid the fallout. I'll then establish a new society with me as leader - and main inseminator....

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 11:56AM -0800  

    On Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:56:07 PM UTC, Sandman wrote:
     
    > So there are some sensible people in the tory party,
     
    The Tory party unlike Labour and the Liberals allow open debate within the
    party

     

    GBur3 <GBur3@aol.com> Feb 28 11:51AM -0800  

    There's some pretty vile people out there. In twenty or thirty years time these cunts will be vying for some of the most powerful positions in the land. They must be stopped at all costs.

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 05:42AM -0800  

    No but you fucking are you useless tory cunt..
     
    On Thursday, 28 February 2013 13:40:51 UTC, jaria wrote:

     

    tinman <tinman080872@aol.com> Feb 28 05:47AM -0800  

    I see he's taken to following me around again. I don't even read his
    posts but I just know they're nothing but old man hate filled nasty
    little digs where he posts the same old bile over and over.
     

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 05:53AM -0800  

    It's all he does Tinny he is a fucking waste of space offers nothing but
    spams the messengers and then calls it adult debate..
     
    On Thursday, 28 February 2013 13:47:48 UTC, tinman wrote:

     

    tinman <tinman080872@aol.com> Feb 28 05:55AM -0800  

    Do what I do jon just click the mark as read box. I've no time for
    the vile old man.
     

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 05:57AM -0800  

    Best way mate the useless tory cunt is only looking for an argument all the
    time and then bullshits he doesn't do punch and judy..
     
    On Thursday, 28 February 2013 13:55:29 UTC, tinman wrote:

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 06:04AM -0800  

    Seem to recall you have used those words once or twice .obviously with no regard to female company despite them asking you not to. What a naughty boy you are thicko

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 06:05AM -0800  

    Oh look YET again the troll is wearing his I'm a tory turd looking for an
    argument hat..
     
     
    On Thursday, 28 February 2013 14:04:07 UTC, jaria wrote:

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 06:05AM -0800  

    Lol and you usually write that sort of thing on your Christmas cards do you thicko?

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 06:05AM -0800  

    Oh look YET again the troll is wearing his I'm a tory turd looking for an
    argument hat..
     
     
    On Thursday, 28 February 2013 14:05:13 UTC, jaria wrote:

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 06:07AM -0800  

    How would you know if you don't read them Tinman. You old fraud Jonskys posts in your eyes are terms of endearment then

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 06:07AM -0800  

    No adult debate as far as you are concerned thicko

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 06:09AM -0800  

    Oh look YET again the troll is wearing his I'm a tory turd looking for an
    argument hat..
     
     
    On Thursday, 28 February 2013 14:07:47 UTC, jaria wrote:

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 04:04AM -0800  

    There have been some disturbing rumors about Andrew. EW

     

    ewill <willelaine@gmail.com> Feb 28 04:08AM -0800  

    I heard quite a few from an ex hotel manager of somewhere he stays
    regularly!!
     

     

    ewill <willelaine@gmail.com> Feb 28 04:10AM -0800  

    Apparently , they were skiing last week/this week (?) along with
    Harry and his girlfriend and others
     

     

    Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> Feb 28 04:22AM -0800  

    On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:08:15 PM UTC, ewill wrote:
     
    I heard quite a few from an ex hotel manager of somewhere he stays
    > regularly!!
     
    Jar I think refers to ......... Jeffrey Epstein

     

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USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fw: NSIA’S SEARCH FOR A NEW FOREIGN POLICY

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From: Folake Olowookere <olowookerefolake@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:09:01 -0800 (PST)
To: ayo_olukotun@yahoo.com<ayo_olukotun@yahoo.com>
ReplyTo: Folake Olowookere <olowookerefolake@yahoo.com>
Subject: NSIA'S SEARCH FOR A NEW FOREIGN POLICY

NSIA'S SEARCH FOR A NEW FOREIGN POLICY
AYO OLUKOTUN
On Monday, the 25th of February, scholars, diplomats, military officers, civil society actors as well as university students gathered at the Nigerian Institute of International Affairs, Lagos to listen to and discuss a lecture on our foreign policy delivered by Emeritus Professor Akinjide Osuntokun. Organised under the auspices of the newly revived Nigerian Society for International Affairs (NSIA), the lecture, entitled ' A Hegemon in a Peripheral Region of the World: The Future of Nigeria's Foreign Policy' provided analytic, historical and hands-on assessments of our foreign policy, with a view to overhauling it.
Before the lecture proper, the president of the society, Professor Jide Owoeye, who is also the Pro chancellor and founder of Lead City University, Ibadan mainstreamed the day's intellectual activity by noting the ever expanding boundaries of the disciplines of international relations in its bid to capture emergent issues of terrorism, climate change, trans border crime, gender conflict and globalization. This is another way of making the point that the search for a new foreign policy for Nigeria connotes a diversified intellectual menu spanning several disciplines, as well as an inclusive political and philosophical agenda with a society wide purview.
Chairman of the distinguished lecture General Ike Nwachukwu (rtd) hinted at one of the paradoxes of Nigeria's external relations and self image when he queried poignantly: 'How realistic is it to play in China's league when our economic and Social infrastructure are weak and in some cases non-existent… and where corruption appears to define our political culture?'. In other words, and as Osuntokun also remarked, any rethinking and reforming of foreign policy must begin with an earnest effort to clean up our act, domestically, by creating n exportable Brand Nigeria as well as undertaking a harnessing of our soft power indices. Consider, for example that the lecture itself was held in the face of a national strike by the Association of Academic Research Institutes, which includes the Nigerian Institute of International Affairs (NIIA) venue of the lecture. Persistent underfunding and refusal of government to honour outstanding agreements are the main grouses of the Association. And, so we are dealing with a political elite stashing away enormous financial resources to contest the 2015 elections but which has no time or patience with properly funding the research institutes which constitute its brain box.
The contradiction of mounting vigorous external relations in a context of state decay was pointed out by Osuntokun who alluded to our earned reputation for successfully policing West Africa through interventions, in Guinea – Bissau, Togo, Principe, Sao Tome, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Mali. The scholar, Nigeria's former ambassador to Germany and a member of the elite Presidential Advisory Council on International Relations, nonetheless went on to say that "in recent times, due to corruption and the Nigerian factor, our troops have sometimes been provided with poor arms and equipment leading to our troops performing below par and consequent United Nations criticism of our troops' ineffectiveness and lack of courage". This is the international outworking of state dysfunction and anomie in which disorder and corruption at home are exported abroad, with serious consequences for our image and human resources. Extremely interesting is the question raised slyly by Osuntokun as to whether Nigeria is a hegemon on its own behalf or on behalf of western military and economic power. He alludes to Nigeria's intervention in Cote d'Ivoire and more recently Mali in which French interests were barely disguised as well as our support for a western-led effort to remove Gaddafi. In his words: "A Situation where a former colonial power intervenes to remove a sitting African President and with Nigeria being complicit in this removal raises a fundamental question in one's mind''. This is to say that we need to think through our policy options with a view to reasserting our national identity and leeway, rather than merely acting out scripts authored in London, Paris or Washington.
Political economists, a dying intellectual tribe in Nigeria's endangered scholarly tradition would pursue the question further and ask whether a country so beholden to the west and which routinely relegates its scholars who ought to theorise new perspectives can define a foreign policy in its own image. For sure, globalization reduces the margins of independent action for all nations, great or small; but the international system, partitioned by a Westphalian paradigm of sovereign nation states permits nations a sense of manifest destiny and role-definition even in a globalised arena. There is the question too in Osuntokun's lecture of what Nigeria gets for all its good neighborliness and philanthropic gestures in the sub region. To rephrase the question in Professor Ibrahim Gambari's classic formulation: Is Nigeria paying the piper without calling the tune? The examples given by Osuntokun in support of this argument include; the scuttling of Nigeria's unanimous election into the UN Security Council in 2010 by Guinea which absented itself and by Liberia, Togo and Sierra Leone which voted against Nigeria. Paradoxically, these are countries which at one time or the other had benefitted from Nigeria's generosity and in some cases, peace keeping operations to prevent their collapse. Along the same lines, Nigerians have often been treated harshly by several countries to which Nigeria has extended various kinds of assistance. The scholar advocates that 'in future, this kind of behavior should not go without consequence. There ought to be a limit to our tolerance, in spite of our avowed policy of sisterly relations with countries in our region and on the African continent as a whole'.
Controversially, Osuntokun somewhat in contradiction of his earlier point on preserving our national interest in the face of challenges from the west argues that there is nothing wrong in Nigeria allowing American bases in the country in the interest of our security. To quote him 'the point I'm making is that an American base does not necessarily translate to a derogation of a country's sovereignty'. Expectedly this latter point generated heated debate during the question and answer section which also saw the lecturer robustly defending his position. The lecture was notable not just for the quality of the presentation but more importantly for the vigorous audience feedback from what one may call the foreign policy elite which included former Director Generals of the NIIA such as, Professor Obiozor and the current DG, Professor Akinterinwa. There were also in attendance academics such as Professor Akinboye of the University of Lagos, Professor Soremekun of Covenant University Ota, Professors Dasylva and Yerima of Redeemers University, Professors Jinadu, Akinyeye, Akinyele as well as Dr Olajumoke Yacob-Aliso. Lead City University which currently host the secretariat was heavily represented by such scholars as Professors Ogunsanwo, Nwoke among others. There were also the Professorate from the NIIA and other well known foreign policy scholars such as Professor Saliu of the University of Ilorin and Dr Obuoforibo of the University of Port harcourt. It was a most rewarding afternoon of engaging and stimulating conversation on Nigerian foreign policy; it remains to be seen how much of this intellectual exchange will impact on the remaking of Nigerian foreign policy.
Olukotun is Professor of Political Science and Dean Faculty of Social Sciences at Lead City University, Ibadan.

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    ewill <willelaine@gmail.com> Feb 28 04:23PM -0800  

    Eh?
     
    It's a speech he gave at the Lord Mayor's banquet where he'd improved
    his manners and dressed properly for once
     

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 04:36PM -0800  

    On Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:28:38 PM UTC, Affa wrote:
     
    > I'll begin by directing you to a telegraph report of the day .... for
    > starters.
     
    Now read your link and tell us what the IDIOT called for came into reality,
    its more a desperate call for bail me out for the fucking mess I created
    than a plan to save the economy which he DIDN'T

     

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 05:06PM -0800  

    That my opinion differs from your AFFA does mean I am a liar. It's not a very good riposte and you should drop it as if that's the case I would be calling you a liar.i think you trying to make us accept that a Scottish history teacher knew enough about international economics to save the world insults anyone's intelligence.
    To claim the accolades would be for political reasons which anyone but the most loyal old easily reognise,

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 05:11PM -0800  

    You've got a nerve saying re writing history is a Tory fall back position when its .labours standard policy as was shown as Browns brain child about saving the world . Then you've got Blair you can deny it but even your co lefties don't as can be seen on some of the threads that you feel it necessary to stay away from.shall we go on to Mandelson? And on and on

     

    Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> Feb 28 05:23PM -0800  

    On Friday, 1 March 2013 00:36:07 UTC, Trueblue wrote:
    >> starters.
     
    > Now read your link and tell us what the IDIOT called for came into
    > reality,
     
    Bank re-capitalisation.
    There were few takers, he convinced them all.
     
     

     

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 03:43PM -0800  

    Whatever your view is on banking bonus'us, this is the nightmare of big
    brother, paying a bonus for success is the basic principle of the John
    Lewis partnership, paying a bonus for failure is wrong but this is endemic
    in the public sector, Network Rail is a classic example

    This is purely a politically motivated move, why don't they limit the vaste
    profits of Apple, could it be they love claiming for Ipads on their
    expences, what about the salarys of public officials or the millions made
    by the Blair using his public contacts to buy multi million mansions for
    cash whilst avoiding taxes with offshore dodgy companies

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 05:23PM -0800  

    It's also a complete waste of time TB . The result would be they will double or treble their wages.

     

    ewill <willelaine@gmail.com> Feb 28 04:20PM -0800  

    You can't even remember your LIES and misinformation
     
    My post at 5.53 was in response to YOUR post at 4.56 ie 57 minutes
    later
     
    I read the article after then ie I read it between your post at 4.56
    and mine in response at 5.53
     
    <<That's not it all though ......... and then you come out with
    *"**Why do
    > you continue to lie unashamedly ? ".
    > I'm having fun here ............ the people that continually call me a
    > liar just keep telling lie after lie.>>
     
    All you have done here is to prove yourself a pathological LIAR who
    can't even recognise when he lies
     
    You are a joke as well as a liar
     
     
    On Feb 28, 10:30 pm, Affa <Affajee...@aol.com> wrote:

     

    Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> Feb 28 04:44PM -0800  

    On Friday, 1 March 2013 00:20:01 UTC, ewill wrote:
     
    You can't even remember your LIES and misinformation
    > later
     
    > I read the article after then ie I read it between your post at 4.56
    > and mine in response at 5.53
     
    When you wrote " never read the article but if it means that some non
    contributors will now be paying less than £1 a day....."
    there had been no mention of the figure some would be expected to pay
    ......... you made the first reference, ergo you had read the article from
    which you gathered the figure.
     
     
    >You are a joke as well as a liar
     
    I'm not the liar here .......... the record exists to prove it.

     

    ewill <willelaine@gmail.com> Feb 28 04:55PM -0800  

    I hadn't read the article when I first posted in response to the
    opening post , the title seemed clear enough-I only read the link
    after your post which suggested that my only 16% pay council tax
    statement was incorrect.
     
    ie I hadn't read the article at 4.56 but I had read it by 5.53 and
    posted accordingly using information contained therein.
     
    You've been caught out lying yet again, thinking you are so clever
    backfired completely on you - Think it's 4 (might be 5) blatant lies
    from you that I've highlighted in the past 48 hours and I only read
    threads that catch my eye so there are probably lots more
     
    Lying is your department , your pathetic protestations are a joke
     

     

    Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> Feb 28 05:21PM -0800  

    On Friday, 1 March 2013 00:55:28 UTC, ewill wrote:

     
     
    > ie I hadn't read the article at 4.56 but I had read it by 5.53 and
    > posted accordingly using information contained therein.
     
    But it was AT 5.53 that you said " never read the article but if it means
    that some non
    contributors will now be paying less than £1 a day ....... ".
     
    There is no ambiguity there. You State you have not read the article, you
    even use a 'but'
    to imply you had not.
    Yet now you say you had read it .......... which is btw what I said.
     
    (On Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:53:18 PM UTC, ewill wrote:
     
    never read the article
     
    You read it.)
     
     
    You above, your latest post, are confirming that I was correct ............
    and yet call me a liar.
    Oh dear!

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 04:06PM -0800  

    Voters backing Ukip at crucial Eastleigh by-election UKIP are in with a
    chance of winning today's crucial Eastleigh by-election, analysis has
    found, with the closely fought contest set to reach a dramtic end.
    By: Charlotte Meredith<http://www.express.co.uk/search/Charlotte+Meredith?s=Charlotte+Meredith&b=1>
    Published: Thu, February 28, 2013
    33Comments<http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/380865/Voters-backing-Ukip-at-crucial-Eastleigh-by-election#comments>

    [image:
    UKIP-leader-Nigel-Farage-and-the-party-s-prospective-candidate-Diane-James-]
     
    *UKIP leader Nigel Farage and the party's prospective candidate Diane James
    *
     
    The Liberal Democrats, Tories and Ukip are all battling it out to win
    today's by-election, with the result seemingly being too close to call as
    voters head for the polls.
     
    The most recent polls have put the Lib Dems on 33 per cent, the
    Conservatives on 28 per cent, Ukip on 21 per cent and Labour trailing on 12
    per cent.
     
    However, the only party with significant upwards momentum during the
    campaign is UKIP, analysis by Survation <http://survation.com/>argued.
     
    "Already UKIP is within the margin of error of the Conservatives and very
    slightly overlapping with the Liberal Democrats," it said.
     
    "It is possible that the last two polls on the chart understate UKIP
    support by several points – meaning that it has continued to increase at a
    faster rate than the chart initially indicates.
     
    "UKIP are within touching distance of second place, and with reports from
    Eastleigh suggesting their ground game has been surprisingly organised, it
    is conceivable that they will pass at least one of the two main parties by
    polling day."
     
    The party have managed to fill the niche that Labour had hoped to occupy as
    the anti-government vote, the analysis said – increasing the number of
    votes taken away from the Liberal Democrats and Conservatives.
     
    Anything is possible, the report states, if UKIP continue to take more
    votes from both main parties and manage to maintain their momentum.
     
     
    *Ukip's prospective candidate Diane James on the hustings in Eastleig*
     
    The possibility that Ukip could pull off a surprise outside victory should
    not be entirely discounted
     
    Survation
     
    "The possibility that they could pull off a surprise outside victory, as
    George Galloway did in Bradford West a year ago, should not be entirely
    discounted," Survation added.
     
    Ukip leader, Nigel Farage, who decided not to stand himself, said he would
    be "very disappointed" if his party only comes in third.
     
    The Conservatives meanwhile, have been hoping that Lib Dem voters may be
    put off by Nick Clegg's handling of the Lord Rennard sexual harrassment
    allegations.
     
    "The ongoing media furore over allegations against Lib Dem peer Lord
    Rennard would seem to some to be meaningful, as with Chris Huhne's
    resignation, the impression of politicians generally in the minds of most
    voters is already so negative that it is unlikely to significantly alter
    their perception of any particular party," the report said.
     
    This morning, David Cameron made a last-minute plea for voters to back his
    Tory candidate in the Eastleigh by-election over her support for cutting
    immigration, welfare and the deficit.
     
    The Conservatives would be unlikely to win the next general election
    without winning seats such as Eastleigh.
     
    David Davis, the former shadow Home Secretary, said such an outcome would
    lead to a "crisis" for the Prime Minister.
     
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/380865/Voters-backing-Ukip-at-crucial-Eastleigh-by-election

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 04:19PM -0800  

    On Friday, March 1, 2013 12:06:27 AM UTC, Jonksy wrote:
     
    > Voters backing Ukip at crucial Eastleigh by-election
     

    So not backing the left wing marxist racist fascist BNP

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 04:23PM -0800  

    Ah bless,,Yus got it bad boy...
     
    On Friday, 1 March 2013 00:19:01 UTC, Trueblue wrote:

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 04:28PM -0800  

    On Friday, March 1, 2013 12:23:09 AM UTC, Jonksy wrote:
     
    > Ah bless,,Yus got it bad boy...
     
    Way over your flawed brain cell Plonksy.

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 04:35PM -0800  

    Nothing flawed about my braincell lacky..I aint the one who keeps harping
    on about a party who haven't even fielded a candidate..Oh dear like I said
    boy yus got it bad..
     
    On Friday, 1 March 2013 00:28:27 UTC, Trueblue wrote:

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 04:44PM -0800  

    On Friday, March 1, 2013 12:35:06 AM UTC, Jonksy wrote:
     
    > Nothing flawed about my braincell lacky
     

    How would you know, its clear to all you thick as a plank

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 04:52PM -0800  

    Ah bless you has got it bad boy..
     
    On Friday, 1 March 2013 00:44:49 UTC, Trueblue wrote:

     

    AWM <Anotherwhitemug@aol.com> Feb 28 05:19PM -0800  

    Says the numpty who fails to grasp the concept of democratic
    elections.
     

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 04:47PM -0800  

    Well Gbur if they won't disclose their policy there are hardly in a position to critics those that have with any credibility.it goes something like .we don't agree to you putting up CAT to X percent.
    Why is that then what would you put it up to? We can't tell you!,

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 04:49PM -0800  

    It's the failure of the last gvts policies if one is realistic Gbur . Had they left the punts finances in a good state, borrowing wouldn't come into the question

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 04:50PM -0800  

    On Friday, March 1, 2013 12:33:27 AM UTC, Jonksy wrote:
     
    > What the fuck would you know about democracy lacky? You support the least
    > democratic bunch to ever infest the HOC..
     
    Would you like to debate that, Gromett voted in by Union Barons, Herr Nick
    allowed to veto members votes, The Conservatives are the only party that
    allow each member ONE VOTE

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 04:52PM -0800  

    Yes AFFA we saw some of Labours investments and yes it does borrow to invest t the right time , the right reasons and in the right circumstances which are not to be found when there is a global recession when people are not buying

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 04:54PM -0800  

    Would you like to debate the FACT that your lot gets most of its money from
    the financial sector lacky? No I thought you wouldn't..
     
    On Friday, 1 March 2013 00:50:37 UTC, Trueblue wrote:

     

    AWM <Anotherwhitemug@aol.com> Feb 28 05:15PM -0800  

    What version of the BNP Constitution are you reading then TB?
     
    On Mar 1, 12:50 am, Trueblue <V6jtrichar...@aim.com> wrote:
    Herr Nick allowed to veto members votes

     

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    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 04:57PM -0800  

    Refusing to change the boundaries to achieve a level playing field is not social justice. GBur . There's a long list of unsocial justice which would never see me support them .

     

    Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> Feb 28 05:09PM -0800  

    On Friday, 1 March 2013 00:27:38 UTC, GBur3 wrote:
     
    The welfare state certainly fits in perfectly with the consumerist,
    > productive, modern society. I
     
     
    Business provided and paid for housing, education, and health care.
    It passed the burden onto the State, and agreed to fund it.
    Over time that burden has been reduced on business and increased on
    society itself.
     
    Now the argument persists that business cannot be burdened with costs
    arrising from societies needs.
    Since 2010 Corporation tax has been reduced in every year ....... and is
    calculated to fall in the remaining years of the coalition.
    It has not had the result desired of attracting investment, improving GDP,
    and raising MORE revenue.
    There was also a reduction in NI contributions from business - same again,
    no promised result.
    Business is reducing its contribution towards welfare and increasing its
    profit margins.
     
    The Welfare State was born of a need to improve education, provide health
    care (and prevention od disease), and
    provide housing .......... the NEED was to improve economic performance and
    be competitive.

     

    GBur3 <GBur3@aol.com> Feb 28 05:19PM -0800  

    A level playing field for whom jar? There are lots of parties other than labour and conservative.

     

    AWM <Anotherwhitemug@aol.com> Feb 28 06:25PM -0800  

    Limps 13,342
     
    UKIP 11,571
     
    Tories 10,559
     

     

    AWM <Anotherwhitemug@aol.com> Feb 28 05:25PM -0800  

    Lol ... says the boards most rabid homophobe.
     
    Your old man would be ashamed that his offspring would put the rights
    of a burkha wearing alien above those of his own Nan.
     
    And I wonder how many of those that fought against these cunts now
    feel right cunts themselves bearing in mind how the country turned
    out.
     
    It certainly aint the Britain they fought for.
     

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 05:46PM -0800  

    He is a fucking hypocrite and a bigot AWM locky was the biggest racist
    cunt to ever infest the old AOL board and when his shit of a leader started
    kissing mossie arse his whole stance changed.. Like you have stated who in
    their right mind would want a mossie loving arsehole like him as a son he
    is a fucking disgrace and a waste of the air he breaths...If he is so fond
    of the fucking nogs why don't he go live in their country and take his
    fucking so called leader with him..
     
     
     
     
    On Friday, 1 March 2013 01:25:24 UTC, AWM wrote:

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 03:09PM -0800  

    On Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:44:42 PM UTC, GBur3 wrote:
     
    > Jaria, its the tories who like to wank themselves to death while choking
    > on an orange.
     


    Interesting artical in the papers the other day about the history of sex
    scandles in the Liberal Party, your too young to remember Jeremy Thorpe
     

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 03:48PM -0800  

    LOL Whilst wearing stockings and suspenders Alex...
     
    On Thursday, 28 February 2013 22:44:42 UTC, GBur3 wrote:

     

    GBur3 <GBur3@aol.com> Feb 28 04:01PM -0800  

    Yes pete, your coalition partners are very keen on sex scandals. Especially involving rent boys and shit...

     

    GBur3 <GBur3@aol.com> Feb 28 04:04PM -0800  

    It's the afternoon, i'm bored and i'm a tory. What shall i do?
     
    I know. Tee hee!!!!!!!!
     
    ;0)_r

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 04:06PM -0800  

    On Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:48:17 PM UTC, Jonksy wrote:
     
    > LOL Whilst wearing stockings and suspenders Alex...
     
    Martin Webster made Herr Nick wear stocking and suspenders when rogering
    him and we all know the history of the faggot brown shirts led by good old
    Ernest the preditory poof

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 04:12PM -0800  

    On Friday, March 1, 2013 12:01:27 AM UTC, GBur3 wrote:
     
    > Yes pete, your coalition partners are very keen on sex scandals.
    > Especially involving rent boys and shit...
     


    Thats the leftie liberals Alex, a married man who liked rent Plonksys
    sitting over him shitting on his chest

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 04:13PM -0800  

    More locky bollocks..We can always rely on the boards expert on all things
    anal to talk a load of shite..
     
    On Friday, 1 March 2013 00:06:56 UTC, Trueblue wrote:

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 05:19PM -0800  

    I take it that you went to the same school as Jonsky GBur. If you think it's big to speak like that knowing that it will offend others on this board you are sadly mistaken

     

    GBur3 <GBur3@aol.com> Feb 28 05:24PM -0800  

    That's your coalition partners pete. You are in coalition with shit eaters and gropers.

     

    GBur3 <GBur3@aol.com> Feb 28 05:30PM -0800  

    Snick Briffin liked being rogered? How do you know pete - were you there?

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 02:01PM -0800  

    Certainly I have Jonsky but unsurprisingly it went over your head.we arnt getting a load of uncivilized ragheads in we are getting those that would be useful to our economy they either will be going to our universities after which they will either go home or fulfill a useful function here whilst the others will be in commerce. As an example Rolls Royce were brought out of troubles and are selling quicker than they can be built.
    Now I've been polite explained things for those who are not the brightest to understand in the hope that you will cease to show what a thicko you are to everyone that might read your posts. Say thank you

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 03:46PM -0800  

    Of course you bloody didn't it don't matter if they are ragheads or city
    slickers they ARE STILL bloody immigrants and that useless arsehole you
    have as a so called leader has thrown the door wide open for them...Like I
    said this is the same useless arsehole who stated HE WOULD REDUCE
    immigration by the tens of thousands....But not a peep out of you and yor
    master over the the twat being nothing more than a blatant liar..And as for
    these so called non raghrads is the caMoron going to vet them all
    personally or leave to the not fit for purpose border agency you are always
    harping on about? And as for being bright you don't have to be bloody
    einstein to see through your tory indoctrinated bullshit..
     
    On Thursday, 28 February 2013 22:01:18 UTC, jaria wrote:

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 04:29PM -0800  

    Of course you bloody didn't...I't don't matter if they are ragheads or city
    slickers they ARE STILL bloody *IMMIGRANTS* and that useless arsehole you
    have as a so called leader has thrown the door wide open for them...Like I
    said this is the same useless arsehole who stated *HE WOULD REDUCE*immigration by the tens of thousands....But not a peep out of you and you
    or your master over the the twat being nothing more than a blatant liar
    over the whole immigration spectrum..And as for these so called non
    raghrads is the caMoron going to vet them all personally or leave it to the
    not fit for purpose border agency you are always harping on about? And as
    for being bright you don't have to be bloody einstein to see through your
    tory indoctrinated bullshit.You were bloody lied too and still you suppoer
    the lying tosser...LOL And you call others thick, You aint equipped to cast
    aspersion on others as you prove daily..
     
     
    On Thursday, 28 February 2013 22:01:18 UTC, jaria wrote:

     

    AWM <Anotherwhitemug@aol.com> Feb 28 04:36PM -0800  

    Why unfortunate for me jar?
     
    My stated position, which has been unwavering from my very first post
    on this board, is I would like nothing more than our Governments to
    reduce immigration.
     
    However, as we still have continuing mass immigration, I shall have to
    wait a little longer.
     
    No point in Tory fools masquerading the red herring of Net Immigration
    as a dawn of a new age, when actual immigration remains at well over
    500,000.
     

     

    jaria <jar1a2@aol.com> Feb 28 04:58PM -0800  

    Well I tried jonsky

     

    Jonksy <jonksy@hotmail.co.uk> Feb 28 05:07PM -0800  

    What you tried to do try is push your usual tory bullshit onto others who
    can see it for what it is.....The FACT is your lot have not reduced
    immigration and after all the bullshit and spin from your so called leader
    he has now opened the floodgates once again and no amount of yours or
    lockys bullshit can hide the FACT..
     
    On Friday, 1 March 2013 00:58:12 UTC, jaria wrote:

     

    Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> Feb 28 05:27PM -0800  

    On Friday, 1 March 2013 00:58:12 UTC, jaria wrote:
     
    Well I tried jonsky
     
     
    These STATISTICS you welcome are manipulated, false, contrived,
    inaccurate, erronious, lies?
    It is not a multi choice question ......... the correct answer is ALL of
    them.

     

    Trueblue <V6jtrichardpr@aim.com> Feb 28 03:16PM -0800  

    On Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:41:17 PM UTC, Affa wrote:
     
    > I'm not surprised to get this standard rejection ......... rewritting
    > history has become a Tory fall back position.
    > The events are well documented,
     
    Post them Affa, what exactly did Enron do to save the world given the fact
    the UK and US had fucking little choice but to save the banking system they
    had bought to its knees by increasing the money supply to fund a false
    bubble of growth, explain to us why your saviour IGNORED years of warning
    of the impending crisis

     

    Affa <Affajeeves@aol.com> Feb 28 03:28PM -0800  

    On Thursday, 28 February 2013 23:16:01 UTC, Trueblue wrote:
    > had bought to its knees by increasing the money supply to fund a false
    > bubble of growth, explain to us why your saviour IGNORED years of warning
    > of the impending crisis
     
    There you go denying the allegation of rewriting history by rewriting
    history.
    And expecting me to present the facts .......... I'll begin by directing
    you to a telegraph report of the day .... for starters.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/recession/3414946/Gordon-Brown-calls-for-new-world-order-to-beat-recession.html

     

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